What's flawed is the belief that sov null sec deserves best reward when NPC null sec and low sec are where the highest risk is.

Low sec and NPC null sec should be the place for the highest rewards, not sov null sec.

Doesn't null require infrastructure be built by players? I'll grant you that the current capacities available are lacking, but in the end we will still likely have that issue even if the capacity issue is corrected because not all entities will likely be interested in investing in it.

Yeah, odd that I understand the very fundamentals and these experienced players don't. Odd indeed. T2 production needs T1 goods, that must be imported from high sec, which can then be exported back. It's very simple. Null bears want it all in their own backyard. Personally, I'm all for giving null sec exactly what they want: complete autonomy. Cut them off completely from high sec, buff their industry, and even go so far as to give them their own form of currency.

Are you really going to try to make the point that it's difficult to build an empire, when you used Goons as an example just one sentence earlier? Really? These guys are a bunch of somethingawful.com forum trolls who have controlled large blocks of this game for how long now?

Titans are balanced by cost. All reports to the contrary are by people who don't know as well as those who coded titans.

Well tech moons need to die, they should have never existed in the first place and frankly things like that should be scattered all over 0.4 and below space.

As to high-ends they do not exist only in Null and I think giving everything to high sec hardly makes reward=risk*capital expenditure work do you?

That... doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand.

What exactly is "the point", because what I am getting are:
a. You are too stupid to figure out how to build **** in null.
b. You are too lazy to build **** in null.
c. You are too greedy to build **** in null.

For all the pissing and moaning about null industry being a hassle, you all can still manage to field huge numbers of capitals, and more importantly, super capitals, which cannot have been built anywhere BUT null. Do you have any comprehension as to how much tritanium and build time it takes to put together even 1 titan? Look it up if you don't and then tell me again how hard it is for your people to build a Rifter.

Do you even DO industry?

So again , enlighten me why this is a verry high concern now that big wars are non existant and while technetium income is skyhigh for a large part of null.And again yes it is a large part if you look at the amount of players in the OTEC alliances.

How the hell did alliances like BOB -owwww i dared say it and in comes T2 whining- even stay alive for longer then 1 month beats me , i mean they should have been sucked dry as an alliance and as members the day they stepped into null right?I mean they had constant wars and didn't suck techtitty as much as CFC does yet they're idnustrial backbone was strong and delivered perfectly during wartimes yeaaaaaaaaaars back and we didn't even have JF's / jumpbridges then .


Ahh i know they must have been cheating devs , that's it it all makes sense now.

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Wait a minute. A few pages back y'all were going on about how you had crappy refineries in null that ate 25% of your ore. Now you're saying that miners get a good deal because they get 100% refineries.

See, isn't that good enough for ~nullsec~?

So I take it you are in favor of massively increased costs for using the high sec slots then.

Please define

"tiered scale"

So the cost per hour would be less for example to build a shuttle, than to build a battleship for instance?

So we would have the same issues as we do now with most things.